6L6's or EL34's?

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Postby shooto » Sun Apr 01, 2007 4:43 pm

interested in the outcome-- I had some Sino EL34B's in my AOR series II...nice tubes-

then I got my GH100L and threw in some SED 6L6 =c='s for a different flavor and I really like them...I think this goes into the "do power tubes effect tone?" realm...I always thought most of the tone from Laneys come from the preamp (I think I remember TT telling me that)...anyway, I might try 34's down the line in the GH but for now, the 6L6's make it a monster...and the description is right, rounder lows, cleaner highs, more headroom...but they growl :)

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Postby Tipiak » Sun Apr 01, 2007 10:36 pm

Hi,

I'm not sure that it is totally safe for the amp to change el34 for 6l6GC. It is not because it is the same socket that you could do it. All other electronics components of your amp are made for el34, not 6l6gc so it could overload some of the components of your amp that may lead to a premature death of your amp...

It is like a thing that so many people are doing since they they think it will not hurt your amp: To remove 2 power tubes in a amp that has 4 power tubes in order to reduce the power. ex: VOX AC30, it is not possible to remove two power tubes...

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Postby Wana B » Tue Apr 03, 2007 3:44 am

[ it is not possible to remove two power tubes ]
Well for your information, it has been done for a long time now.
The best way to lower power output would to use these adaptors

Using Yelow jackets, is safer than pulling tubes out

What are Yellow Jackets®?

Yellow Jackets® Converters are a type of specialized adapters which permit the use of EL84/6BQ5 power tubes in place of 6V6, 6L6, EL34, and 7591 types.

How do they work?

They give you simple Class-A operation from any amp. Yellow Jacket® Converters not only rearrange the pin locations of the tubes, but also provide the necessary current limiting on the screens and cathode as well as blocking the amplifier's grid bias voltage, while configuring the EL84 in a Class-A, Self-adjusting cathode-bias circuit. In other words, there are no adjustments to make and no modifications necessary, you simply plug the Yellow Jackets® into the amp's output tube sockets, (in cathode-bias amplifiers) screw the ground wires under one of the output tube socket mounting screws, plug the provided EL84's into the Yellow Jackets®, turn on the amp and play.

How will they change my amplifier?

It's like getting a whole new amplifier! In Champ and Deluxe type amplifiers, the Yellow Jackets® output is smooth, strong and more even than with the stock 6V6s. When the Yellow jackets® Converters are installed in larger amplifiers intended for 6L6s or EL34 output tubes, the high plate and screen voltages are reduced as well as current limited to protect the EL84 and to drop output power. When a pair of Yellow Jackets® are used in a Marshall 50 watt or similar amplifier, the overall power drops to about 20 watts and takes on more of the character of an old Vox AC30. The distortion is smoother and more even and the output is both substantially reduced and more compressed due to the Class-A nature of the Yellow Jackets®. In a 100 watt amp like a Twin Reverb or Marshall 100, either two or four Yellow Jackets® can be used. If only two are used and the other two sockets are left empty, the output is dropped to about 20 watts. With four in place, the amp puts out about 40 watts and takes on a whole new warmth and richness.

In the cases of the YJ7591 converters, the overall output power remains the same, but the sound becomes fuller and the extinct 7591 are replaced with common and inexpensive EL84 tubes. In old Ampeg Reverb Rockets and the like, you experience a warmth and sweetness that you could never get with the now unavailable 7591 tubes.

Will they hurt my amp?

No! Yellow Jacket® converters are safe for all amplifiers and transformers. As all Yellow Jacket® Converters internally limit voltage and current they put no extra strain on amplifiers' power and output transformers or internal components. Using the Yellow Jackets® in higher powered amplifiers actually reduces the strain on the transformers and internal components because it reduces the overall wattage of the system. Furthermore, the heater (or filament) current of the EL84 is lower than that of the 6L6, EL34 or 7591, so the Yellow Jacket® will reduce the strain on the filament windings of the power transformer as well.
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Postby Vinny » Tue Apr 03, 2007 3:56 am

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